My top 10 overused fantasy novel cliches

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I agree! No more chosen ones ever!
I always thought Peetas name was a really dumb bread pun.....
I'm not trying to be rude to u, and u do state valid points, but put yourself into an authors shoes (unless u are an author) some readers cling to these things and prophecies generally put a twist in the plot. Some people make languages and so they are of course going to have weird spelling plus it is the authors book so they can spell any of their damn words however the hell they want. Also, while I'm ranting, they can make fucking chosen ones whenever they want it, they generally tie in with the prophecies. Now before I go on too long I will stop myself. Like I said though, u have a valid point on some of these, especially the damsel in distress one. I just think you should be a little bit kinder because this will get to some budding writers who watch this video and think that they can't do this.
I don't really have a chosen one I havea goddess who chosen a couple full of pure and love to give birth to 7 children each child learn how to use thier own gift one of them ends up being the most powerful but they do have to fight the evil group The dark nights
I'm planning on writing a book and love this. I have to agree with you.
You can sort of argue that last one. For example I have a character named Mikal. Yes, that's a funny way of spelling Michael in terms of English but in terms of Russian or German that's a lot closer to the mark. It more or less depends on the area in story to me.
I am so happy that my book has none of these and I hope this is a sign my book will be good.
I think prophecies CAN be great if they are not used in an unquestioned way, like if it is somehow possible that they do not become reality. or that they become reality but it still doesn´t mean what everyone would think it means for the world (like, it does not necessarily save it. something like that) they are very interesting because they link the present with the future, which can create great twists or story-ideas in general. IF they are not used in the most simple and old and boring way...
This is basically Harry Potter
YES WEIRD SPELLINGS ARE THE WORST!!!!!! I love how writers us ph in there character and place name, etc.Because every world has Latin. And Latin spelling is still a hold over even though Latin is dead language! If I ever write a book, made up names will be spelled fonetically, as they should be.
Kind of funny that most of this list pretty much describes Harry Potter.
Y'know, in my opinion white is evil, and black is good. That's because I associate white with fanaticism.
I'm writing a fantasy ish novel and I'm happy that I haven't included any of those
There is no purpose for that beard.
"the chosen one" annoys me,I love the damsel in distress tho,if it's done well that is.
I have no idea about the quality of the content, dude was all about whispering or his mix was in the other room.
I like his voice.
Agree with most of them but dude the point of magic is that is power out of our imagination xD
The English language rules, it's the king's language after all.
My chosen one actually dies at the beginning and the gods choose his brother to replace him
The only one I'll disagree with you on this is the odd spelling.... This shows how time changes. Peter used to be spelled differently 500 years ago and it will likely be spelled differently 500 years from now
Luckily none of these are in my fantasy novel I am planning!
You had me at strange spellings--subscribed. Too much truth.
You want the most unclicheic story in the history of storytelling? Read "Vivian Amberville - The Weaver of Odds" by Louise Blackwick. It's a new and little known author, but the book has a fanbase of 2-3 million readers.Vivian Amberville is basically a masterpiece of the fantasy genre, in right league with George Martin, J.K.Rowling and Patrick Rothfuss. Vivian Amberville follows the story of a teenage girl who can manipulate the outcome of events. She can travel between dimensions and ultimately discovers she can reshape reality. The story mainly takes place in two worlds: one is a futuristic failed Great Britain, the other a fantasy realm where thoughts can be shaped into things. The masterpiece of this work is the multi-layered world the author created, the lifelike characters and the hidden messages in the story. A recommended read for fantasy and sci fi fans!
Great video of yours! all your points were good, you go straight to the point but whole video is very quiet and if youre a quiet speaker you can always volume it up while editing, i think sound is a great part of the video that makes viewers keep watching
Thank you for showing me what my beard would look like if I grew it out. And everybody needs a good Dark Lord lol
That box of the Inheritance series got me squealing! Where is the last book? Inheritance?
I agree with 90% of these points. But the last point even you complained about different races having the same language so why does everybody need to use English? And for names of people and places, it makes even less sense as you can give them any name even if your language is supposed to be English.
Bob Newbie? Is that you??
Well, shit. I have a few of those in my story in one form or another. However, my story is going to be a stage musical, not a novel.
I went hit subscribe and paused, I'm now the 666th subscriber.
I disagree about your point about names. The country I'm basing my stories in is supposed to be similar to medieval Britain. That's not a failure of imagination on my part. I write fantasy because of my love for history (and I'm a particularly huge fan of British medieval history), so creating an entirely alien country, like Morrowind, wouldn't make sense. Therefore, having a character called Meduselaf, for example, wouldn't make sense (unless he's a foreigner, and I do intend to explore other countries). But I also don't want to just use existing English names. Therefore, I'm taking real names and giving them a slightly different spelling. I'm with you on the chosen one, dark lord and prophecy tropes, though. However, I think that giving them an original twist is better than simply ignoring them. Prophecies can make a fantasy series better, and add a level of mystery, if done right. Just look at GRRM. On the topic of magic, well, in my series magic is limited by the level of scientific knowledge of the spellcaster. For example, because of the lack of medical knowledge in the Middle Ages, there are very few healers who use magic, because they're more likely to make a wound worse.
Um after watching this video my only question is, why are you reading fantasy? It sounds like you would be a lot happier reading like YA contemporary. You don't like the moral play of light verses dark, you don't like world building elements that are staples in the genre, heck you don't like magic... Go read something else.
Hey all, great video by the way pretty much read my mind, I have started a fantasy novel, I am new to the whole subject of writing so could you guys help me out by sending me any asset that assists writers?
10 is not fantasy trope, but actually an English language fail. There's no real ultimate pronounciation rules, so adding a character in middle of word changes how first and last letters are pronounced. Great trolling tool for authors.
Racial and cultural homogeny is by far my least favorite. People have diversity, even if they are elves. As for the last part, if it's high fantasy, or even simply in a setting vastly different from out own, NOT having weird spellings, or at least different naming conventions is bad. In The Hunger Games, there's no reason for them to have different names, but in a fantasy world, English names would make no sense at all.
Agree with all of those, and I'd like to add one which has annoyed me for years: basing everything on the Roman Empire. Whenever there's an empire of any sort, it's always got to be full of legionaires, praetorians, and people whose names end in "-us", and they're always stuck in 200BC despite 1400s technology being available everywhere else. There are other great empires to base empires on, but for some reason, in fantasy, as soon as something's Imperial, it must resemble Rome in as many ways as possible.
What about a book about the chosen ones assistant where the chosen one is a secondary character.
I know this is off topic but the first thing I saw in your video was the Inheritance series books. God I love that series.And I very much agree with the things you stated in this video.
Yes! The other fantastical species having the same customs, culture and language as humans. I always get upset when that isn't fully explained if there is already sooo much variation within the human species at the same time in history.
I have a chosen one character named Zera but I'm trying to make her more than just the prophecy. She's smart, yes, however, she's not strong physically and isn't far enough in her magical training to fulfill anything, plus she just doesn't have it in her to kill. It bothers Zera and she ends up meeting a character named Darsha which kicks off the rest of the story. I dislike chosen one stories myself but the characters wouldn't go away. Can anyone tell me what I should avoid with Zera's character? Currently, Darsha's characterization is done and I'm still working on Zera.
This is super interesting, I never really thought about these until you pointed them out.
The Wheel of Time series has most of these but is still very great and not like most other fantasy books
Unfortunately, I have come to find most fantasy fiction to be stale. It's sad too because it would seem that there's still a wealth of possibilities left untouched.
Note: Split from another comment because I felt like it should be it's own comment. The series Naruto actually did the prophecy trope pretty well. What I mean is that there was no set child of prophecy, there ended up being three though in the series, it only acknowledges two. What I mean is one, Nagato who had a god like power sacrificed himself to save the people of a village he destroyed which allowed the series to have a good ending until they fucked it up with the sequel series......but I digress. Then there is Naruto who lead Nagato to that change and ended up saving the world in the last world war by uniting everyone. And then there's Minato, Naruto's father who not only saved Naruto the day he was born but set up him to be the main child of prophecy while simultaneously saving their village from being completely destroyed.
A bit late to the comment section, but you didn't have my least favorite cliche......... Deus ex machina. For example, the Great Eagles in Lord of the Rings.
I can't decide to have the theme of my story be obvious or slightly hidden.My idea is for it to be almost like a slice if life but im not sure if I should make it more on the fantasy side or more true to life.
The ten comandments of fantasy: Prophecies are BULLSHIT! Chosen ones are BULLSHIT! Pure evil is BULLSHIT! The dark and light metaphor is BULLSHIT! Fansasy races are regular humans but not is BULLSHIT! Manly man saves damsel in distress is BULLSHIT! Bullshit fighting skills are BULLSHIT! Deus ex Magic is BULLSHIT! Racist cults are BULLSHI- wait, don't those actually exist, though? Complicated spellings for simple words are BULLSHIT! And somethimes, they are french.
In my story (which im probably never going to write since i have a small vocabulary) there is no chosen one and the initial Marty Stu protagonist will get killed in the first few chapters then his brother or friend would become the protagonist,and he is initially a weak and flawed character unlike his brother/friend. the main antagonist is a wizard whose motivation for releasing an ancient evil force that will destroy everything, is the fact the he thinks that humanity is evil and corrupts nature and needs to be rid of. my story also includes "light elves" who contrary to the cliche are evil, and want to purifyeverything which means completely eradicating another non human race which could be dark elves, orcs or satyrs or some other traditionally evil race. but here they are good.
Best intro ever <3
What about a prophecy about someone killing a dark lord only for the two people of prophecy, the prophecied hero and the prophesied dark lord being the same person? I'm serious, that came from the top of my head but it would at least to me be an interesting twist that most would not see coming.
The most overused in fantasy is based on everything norse myth from the creatures humans that live in the north. even the deities themselves is based from some norse gods. like in world of warcraft there is an npc named odin. dont get me wrong i love Norse mythology.but it is soo cliche to use Nordic Stuff.how about greek japanese celtic or even roman.come on guys can we just step away from Norse and use other Mythologies
In english there is no such thing as "normal spelling" as far as names are concerned, since its not a phonetic language
For the Dark magic part, i'm so tempted to put in a line if say one of the characters has it: "Oh, so you have the power of Cliches and Stereotypes?"
As a guilty pleasure, I really love some of these. The wise sage, the orphan thing, and the prophecy. Oops.
Haha! Maybe this explains why you enjoyed Deathsworn Arc? A lot of these tropes are specifically things I was writing against! 1. Prophecy or Destiny - I specifically wanted to make DSA a non-prophecy story. I mean what's the point in the villain trying to take over the world if some kid is prophesized to defeat them? You might have picked up on some prophecy in the books, like the 'Reign of Fire' and the coming of Orion's Final Emissary. However these elements are non-mystical. In Torea, the future is always in flux, this is why people can't predict the future, only possible outcomes. I think ordinary people, getting caught up in an adventure and having to learn and adapt is a much more interesting trope. Korhan is really the anti-chosen one. He loses more than he wins and he has to work hard to get better at anything. His only real strength is that he's open-minded and a deep thinker. 2. Saul was the anti-wise old wizard. In Torea magic doesn't come easy, especially to humans. 3. I sort of have a dark lord equivalent, but they are not evil. In fact the dark lord equivalent intends to bring order to the world. I can't go into detail because it would be a massive spoiler. This story is kind of tied up in 'The Truth' and the religions of Torea. I can say no more! 4. I love the beautiful and seductive evil witch! This reminds me of a character called Olwyn Blackhand whom you won't have met yet! 5. Races and species uniform? I totally agree here. This is why in Torea Elves, dwarves, humans, dark elves, orcs and verkreath live so differently in such radically different cultures. I'm particularly pleased with gravian culture. The idea of a strictly matriarchal society, which turns earthly medieval life on it's head, where the women are firmly in charge and treat the men as more or less slaves or property was a fascinating idea to explore. It seems absurd, that men in gravian culture are such obvious second class citizens, but in reality I think much of medieval europe was like this but in reverse. 6. I hate the damsel in distress too. In large parts that's why for much of the series Vashni is actually the most important character for the groups survival. I think she has an anti-damsel in distress attitude too. That's really her character flaws, pride and arrogance. 7. Hmmm, I'm kind of guilty of the healing thing. If you get as far as book 4, you learn that Vashni, is actually extraordinary at whispering for a specific reason. She's uniquely good at it. Vexis, the dark elf girl is a talented whisperer, but she has nothing on Vashni. Only in book 5 does Vashni meet her match in whispering with Korzad SuSak's sister Ileandra. 8. I really wanted magic to have a system in Torea. I don't like limitless magic. In book 4 someone casts an insansely powerful spell, but they have to spend two days preparing for it and it completely wipes them out. Magic can't be a source of constant Deus Ex Machina. 9. I'm afraid I AM guilty of this! There's the church burning people in book 3, and the theme continues a little in book 4. 10. Aargh! I am SO guilty of this! I even use a non-standard character in the elvish language! Hope it's not too distracting! :P It's interesting that when I wrote DSA I was kind of raging against some of these tropes. I guess it might put people who want the 'destined orphan', 'coming of age' story off.
On the topic of the prophecy thing in the book i am writing it really only references a tail of a unique species to the land being human male appearing from what is a sort of electric flash or storm appearing in the lands time of need but that's all that it really references and that is just to help justify the main characters reasoning to be there but ultimately there is a major plot twist at the end of the book that even if you try looking for it in the story just slaps you in the face at the end of the book at least i think so my ultimate point here is i believe that even the most common cliches can be ok if you don't take an original strategy into writing that cliche sorry for no grammar was in a hurry getting this typed and quite frankly its a youtube comment feed
You started exactly with my two most hated ones, the prophecy and the chosen one... just unbearable. Both overused to death and in the vast majority of cases they just make the story less enjoyable because they give away a piece of the story already. They can't even really be used in a creative way because if you have them and then they turn out to be untrue they just create a sense of disappointment to the reader. Why not just let the story flow naturally, we don't need to have this "fixed path" layed beforehand.
My story has a necromancer and demon sorcerer for protagonists, and a light elf and another generally "good" character for antagonist xD
Thankyou. But just a tip. Look into the camera.
I generally agree with most of those, especially this orphan and propphecy thing, ugh, you can guess the plot right away from this.

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My top 10 overused fantasy novel cliches